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    Clash Royale thought you guys might like it [art]

    Clash Royale thought you guys might like it [art]


    thought you guys might like it [art]

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 12:12 PM PST

    Thought these arrows were very satisfying

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 04:49 AM PST

    Bring back this legendary mode....

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 09:39 AM PST

    Some ideas for the new Clash Royale Lead (suggestions to improve the game!)

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 03:48 AM PST

    Some ideas for the new Clash Royale Lead (suggestions to improve the game!)

    Now that Supercell is looking forward to hire a new Game Lead in Clash Royale, I wanted to give visibility to some ideas that I shared a few months ago and that I think are the way to go to make CR go back to the top charts again.

    Let me know what do you think about these proposals and if you would like to see them in the CR... Hopefully some will be read by the new game management team! : D

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    A proposal on how to adapt the Set Rotation system of MTG to Clash Royale. If you want to get the basics of the system, here's a summary.

    Also, please note that I'm not affiliated on any way with Supercell and I'm unaware of their future plans regarding CR. This is just for fun!

    FOREWORD

    For a company that expects their games to be played for years and years, Clash Royale content structure is not built in a way that can keep the game fun forever, because it can't sustain an endless flow of new and fresh content.

    A static endgame and its inability to surprise players with new gameplay are factors seriously harming the performance of Clash Royale, so here I attempt to provide an idea on how to flip that sinking arrow back up : )

    Despite being a great game, the truth is that Clash Royale has been declining in both business metrics and player interest for the past few years, recently reaching its lowest historical mark in terms of revenue (as of April 2020).

    This not the trend that we see on Clash of Clans or Brawl Stars, which have in fact reinforced their revenues during the last year (globally speaking).

    (Average top grossing ranking position on US, iOS) — As of May 2020

    WHY IS IT DECLINING?

    In my opinion, the main issue is that the key weaknesses that were already detected by Michail Katkoff from Deconstructor of Fun back in 2016 have not been fixed yet:

    • The endgame eventually turns into a repetitive grindfest.
    • And there's no incentive to try new decks and strategies.

    Once you reach the endgame, the advanced user game experience is far away from the core of Clash Royale's original fun, which was based discovering and mastering deck strategies and card combos.

    This negative situation is the consequence of two big problems in their content management strategy:

    • New cards are introduced in very small doses which are not enough to make the meta move forward, since they don't introduce new strategies and mechanics that are widely adopted by the whole community.Everybody has mastered and uses the same main strategies.
    • New cards (and their combos) are mostly oriented to high end users, which are the only ones that can afford to max them out for competitive purposes, which is making the game more P2W and pushing out newcomers or lower spending profiles.

    As a consequence, Clash Royale's metagame has stagnated and players have limited reasons to keep on playing, remain engaged or comeback whan a new season starts or a new card is released. Nothing new will surprise them.

    The adoption of a seasonal model, Battle Pass and the focus on cosmetics are helping by providing side objectives to remain in the game, but they are palliatives to the core problem, and not actual solutions.And the proof is that they haven't changed the negative trend.

    Why don't just… release more cards?

    This sounds like an obvious solution to this gameplay stagnation. Nevertheless, if we take a look at the numbers, it seems that Clash Royale is going the opposite direction.

    Last updated Aug/2020

    My assumption is that the team's idea is to make each card feel truly unique and amazing — at the cost of the quantity.But it might also be motivated the issues linked to an orthogonal differentiation model without a content deprecation system, which we raised on the previous post:

    • It's increasingly difficult to create balanced cards.And it gets even harder with every new one released, because designers first need to make sure that they new card is effective against current dominant strategies, but not too much.And then, some time later, designers will need to find a counter for that, that is also more effective to the previous ones… and this is eventually not sustainable because you will ran out of viable ideas.Or even worse, maybe some great and fun ideas can't be applied because the power escalation passed them over some time ago.
    • Its harder to make new fun combos, because new cards have less orthogonality.Game complexity would explode if new behaviors and mechanics were constantly introduced, and then they remained forever.What this means is that new content relies more on linear escalation, and many of the new cards that are updated and boosted versions of earlier archetypes, or combinations of them, rather than truly new cards…

    This is what happens with the Skeleton Dragons (2020) and the Baby Dragon (2016)… two similar flying short ranged area damage units where the main difference is stat (and amount) based…

    So let's tackle all these issues:

    WHAT TO CHANGE? WHAT TO KEEP?

    Considering the data available, I think it wouldn't make sense to revamp the early game experience:The core gameplay that made Clash Royale extremely engaging and popular back in 2016 is still there, and the decline of the game is due to a general decrease of interest in the game due to its inability to provide an interesting endgame, rather than the market havingmoved on from this genre or the release of competitors.

    If anything, once the transition to a rotative meta game is completed we might want to review if there would be positive effects on accelerating the progression to 4k trophies, since I suspect that path has been abnormally extended in an attempt to push back the problematic endgame stage as much as possible. u/_Victator: The road to 4k hasn't been made longer but has shortened significantly in the past years.

    We shouldn't revamp the trophy system or inflation balancing either, since I don't think the issue is a lack of competitiveness on the higher leagues, but rather that the gameplay becomes very repetitive and P2W at those points.And even if I believe Clash Royale's trophy system in leagues is less elegant and predictable than ranks based on amount of victories (like Hearthstone, MTGA…), I don't see the current trophy balance as a blocker for the introduction of set rotations.

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    As a consequence, we will focus on the endgame stage, pursuing two objectives:

    1. We want to be able to introduce big batches of new content, which will make the metagame move forward, pushing players to collect and upgrade new cards, build new decks, and master new strategies and card combos.
    2. We want to be able to deprecate old content to make new content creation and balancing easier, guarantee the metagame rotation and generate a comeback effect among churned players.This obsolescence has to be come at a reasonable pace, and old cards should still have an usage, albeit limited. All this was already explained here.

    This would be achieved through 3 changes:

    CHANGE #1: CONTENT SETS (SAGAS)

    In Magic: The Gathering, content is separated in sets of ~270 cards released every 4 months. In Clash Royale, new content would belong to groups I've called Sagas.

    Each Saga would be recognizable through a combination of name, icon and a year: the Undead Invasions Saga (2020), the Thunder God Saga (2020), the Destroyer of Worlds Saga (2021)…

    These names would be related to Clash Royale's universe lore developments which would be progress together with the Sagas: exploring where do the goblins come from, the tale of a Barbarian tribe clashing with dragons, etc…

    Incidentally, this would also be a great opportunity to introduce recurrent and recognizable characters (heroes), which take part on the storyline and contribute building a stronger IP.

    Cards from the same saga would have the same icon on the top corner, so they're easily recognizable.

    Contents of a Saga

    The idea would be that each Saga would contain enough new cards to greatly affect the meta, its cards would include new and exclusive mechanics and the whole set would have a focus on a specific set of 2–3 strategies and combos, so players can choose in which of the strategies they do want to specialize.For example:

    (Due to space constraints, here I'm just describing one strategy per saga, but there should be 2-3 valid opposed strategies per saga. You get the idea).

    And when it comes to the amount of content, Sagas would have cards from all rarities.What I would expect is something like this:

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    I am aware that this would mean a significant increase on the pace of card release (from ~5 cards per year to ~40), but take in account that creating cards would be easier than it is currently because:

    • Cards within a saga would be built around new mechanics and synergies.
    • The same strategies and card combos could replicated at different rarities, with differente degrees of power (great for creating quantity of content easily obtainable, and make lower players be part of the latest meta).
    • The card design and balancing process should be revamped to a more community oriented approach. Something closer to the Magic R&D set design process, with future leagues of highly engaged users playtesting upcoming content…This is a dense topic I'm not going to enter into now, but you can find more details on MTG's incredible set development process all over the internet.

    Releasing and Deprecating Sagas

    We should have to take a look at Supercell's data to get the final numbers of course, since the release and deprecation of the Sagas should be based on how much time do players need to fully master all these cards and combos, and when they're ready to start a spending rush again.

    But in this example, I'm gonna say that a new saga should be released every 4 seasons, and that deprecation happens at the end of a year in the name of the saga.

    The year of the saga would be a +1 of the current one, meaning that at any given point in time there would always be between 3 and 6 playable sagas:

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    Cards from a Saga would be obtained through the usual reward systems (Battle Pass, Chests…) but we would add a new thing which are the Saga Chests, that would allow collectors or players looking for just that card to complete my combo to focus more their spending.

    The STARTER Saga

    If you've read to this point you'll be asking:

    "But JB, how can we keep the early game unchanged if we're replacing the entire set of cards every 2 years?", and maybe even " JB, wouldn't this many changes make the game core unrecognizable?".

    This is why we should keep a basic set of cards outside of the Saga system.

    This group would be composed by the cards that appear on the starting arenas, which teach the player the basic strategies and behaviors of the game (archers, giant…), in a similar way to what HearthStone does with their Basic set. So no need to touch the early game.

    The Basic Set in Hearthstone is composed by the first cards that players get in the game.

    The Starter Saga cards would be a bit power creeped out by the rest of the Sagas, looking to make that they're not the best option to play once players reach the metagame.

    CHANGE #2: OLD CARDS USAGE

    With the introduction of Sagas, we're pretty much covered when it comes to introduce and deprecate old content. But we still have the topic of having to provide a (limited) usage to old content.

    Here, there are two opposed directions that we can follow:

    • Option 1. Dusting:When a Saga is deprecated, you transform cards that are no longer valid into resources to gather or upgrade the cards that are still valid.Collector players would still get something, like a sticker on an album.
    • Option 2. Use is limited to specific events:This is the closest approach to MTG (which doesn't make it the optimal, though): there might be an unbalanced mode in some events which would allow you to use any historical cards,or those belonging to a specific saga.What is achieved with this is that players would still be interested on obtaining and upgrading old cards, which means a huge amount of rewards to grant without hurting the main ingame economy.

    Same as in MTG, in Hearthstone players can use their full collection on a secondary mode.

    CONCLUSION: DUSTING WITH COLLECTION

    Overall, I believe that the best option would be to go for a Dusting system, since it would make it easier to implement and maintain, and overall follows better the Supercell design philosophy of keeping systems with the lesser amount of pieces possible.

    Nevertheless, together with the Dusting I'd strongly recommend adding a card album feature where you unlock forever the cards that you obtain. This would an interesting objective for collectors , and also allow for the benefits of the Option 2 eventually

    We designed a similar feature in Monster Legends a few years ago, and it was a great way to improve player interest over obtaining each of the creatures of the game…

    CHANGE #3: ENDGAME ECONOMY REVAMP

    One of the reasons why CR is so repetitive towards the endgame is because by that point there are few new cards to unlock, and progression is based on upgrading them.

    Card upgrading might be point of the system where most money comes from, but it's not very fun because — for the most part — doesn't provide new skill challenges nor the need to learn new combos or techniques.

    This is something where Brawl Stars is clearly superior, since the ragers mastery depth grow linked to upgrades, when they unlock the star powers and gadgets.

    Rather than by adding star powers to cards, we are trying to solve this issue by boosting the capacity of Clash Royale to integrate new ones, and therefore be able to put more focus on whats fun (unlocking new cards).

    As a consequence, the introduction of Sagas should come with an acceleration of the overall upgrading economy, making it faster and cheaper to upgrade cards.

    This is a requirement to keep player spending at a reasonable level despite pumping up a lot of extra cards, and make them deal easier with the fact that the content will become mostly unplayable within a year.

    I believe this move would be very positive for the monetization, because:

    • It would decrease the pay-to-win factor in the game, allowing lower spending players to become engaged and spend within their budgets. And it would decrease the grind, improving player engagement and retention.Therefore, it would increase the customer base.
    • The decrease on spending depth per card will be countered by the increase in card quantity. What this means is that if we decrease the card max out cost to 50%, but we increase the amount of cards by 2, we get the same money but there's more people buying.This is healthier for the business and will increase playersatisfaction.

    FINAL THOUGHTS

    I am aware that the changes I am proposing are quite aggressive, specially on the topics of game economy acceleration and the amount of new cards per year.And while I think all of them are achievable challenges (specially by the superb team of CR), they would probably clash with the idea of keeping the team at a super-small size, which is part of the genetics of SC…

    However, I think now it's the right moment for Clash Royale to become ambitious on tackling the structural changes necessary to solve the issues that have been in the game since 2016, and never properly tackled.

    The potential for Clash Royale to get back player attention, and to return to its former top grossing positions is still there, but I believe it requires making bold moves in the line of what I've proposed.

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    I hope you enjoyed this little exercise as much as I enjoyed creating it : )

    Please upvote to help these ideas get visibility, if you want them implemented in Clash Royale!!

    TLTR Summary

    (Suggested by u/POG0w0)

    • Clash Royale performance and player interest has declined because of a stagnant meta, due to the lack of enough new cards and meaningful srtategies.
    • To fix this, CR should adopt a rotative meta structure which would allow to introduce new cards more regularly and deprecate old content.
    • The creation of new cards would be more sustainable by the adoption of a more community-based card design and balancing system (inspired by MTG's) and a less time/money demanding upgrade system.
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    Was rewatching the Electro Giant reveal. That's not a mustache, that's his nose hair

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 12:50 PM PST

    Idea: Put a list of compatible cards to help new players build decks. Any suggestions please comment

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 11:28 AM PST

    First time making it into the top 10k.. Feels sooooo good ������

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 03:14 PM PST

    Clash Royale Anime Opening!

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 11:01 AM PST

    Anyone else?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 07:03 AM PST

    Anyone else with pass just let the f2p people win during challenges and only just try to win with other pass people? I just now the cost of gems to restart a challenge is ridiculous and most people don't wanna pay it or don't have the gems so I try to just help out the little bit I can, and hopefully I can make someone happy that's maybe just one win away from the end or just one away from a reward that they need currently to get there and not miss out.

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    HA GOTEEM

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 12:32 PM PST

    Another month, another 4 weeks of third place finishes because of timezones and SC is doing nothing about it...

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 07:28 AM PST

    I'm sorry, whoever designed the river race lacks foresight that the entire community picked up on day one of Clan Wars 2. This war each day my clan wakes, we're down by 10k points. We slowly caught up to first day 1 by end of day on the western hemisphere. Day 2, same story. Now that it's day 3, the clans on the eastern hemisphere finish the war before we even wake up. And guess what, we're stuck this this bullshit for the rest of the month with the same clans who will all finish in the same position because it's literally what happens 95% of the time.

    Clan war shouldn't be measured by participation, there needs to be SOME skill element. I'm filtering through new members are a rapid pace and they all tell me they were kicked because they don't like the new clan wars. WE NEED A NEW SYSTEM. We need to be able to opt in/out without being punished. Clan leaders need to be able to start a war on a time that works for the their clan. It sucks because I spent so much time building a great clan, and we're slowly disbanding because of how unfun Clan Wars 2 is.

    End rant...

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    The prince was quite conflicted on which way to go

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 06:32 PM PST

    Took a year and a half to get the chests like that, how should I organize them next?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 05:03 PM PST

    Are you enjoying the new arena?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 08:29 AM PST

    beginning of season, but still this is nice

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 11:30 AM PST

    The Hogrider was trapped behind the P.E.K.K.A. and Mega night.

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 01:23 AM PST

    Balloon needs a slight nerf and causes problems in war in my opinion

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 05:18 AM PST

    There is no denying balloon is in a strong place right now and could do with a slight nerf, nothing crazy so it isn't viable. In war there are simply not enough decent counters to the balloon to cover all 4 decks considering plenty of air counters have been nerfed. The balloon can be cycled in fast decks and pose threat in heavy decks as the air counters are just too weak. Hunter is a decent counter and even then any player with half a brain can wait for the right moment to strike with the balloon when the Hunter isn't in cycle or use back up troops to kill the Hunter. I know some people will agree balloon is a win condition and is balanced the way it is right now but in my opinion in the current meta it is too easy for the balloon to take the tower.

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    Another long 4 weeks... I really don’t want to be another negative Nancy, but man, can there be a better matching algorithm? Or opt-in mechanism? We’re a casual clan, I don’t think I/we should be punished for not kicking our 4th year OG clanmates who have busy lives. Idk.

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 09:46 PM PST

    Was playing in my mini acc and came accross this guy. I mean why tf is he even in here? Makes no sence

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 04:54 AM PST

    What is the point of a month long war matchup?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 11:55 AM PST

    I'll list our last 2 months of weekly war results, using A-E instead of clan names.

    Last month: week- 1. ABCDE 2. ACBDE 3. ABCDE 4. ABCDE (1 position change)

    Two months ago: week- 1. ABCDE 2. ABCDE 3. ABCDE 4. ABCDE (same result every week)

    Why are we still doing this 5 months in? Just do new matchups every week. In CW1 we could have had more than 75 fresh war matchups with a new chance to win every other day since August 31st. We've had 5 matchups. This is mind-numbingly stupid and boring.

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    How interested is this sub reddit in CRL 2021?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 08:50 AM PST

    I'm a big fan of Clash Royale Esports but rarely see any posts on for example CRL, other third party events or Top Ladder on this sub. So my question is, how many of you are following the pro scene or also enjoy watching tournaments like CRL? The esport specific subreddits are dead btw, that's why I'm posting here.

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    1 health come back

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 08:20 AM PST

    Is it normal to the skeleton to have followed that path?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 06:27 PM PST

    Why did supercell change the way to find clans?

    Posted: 03 Feb 2021 10:08 PM PST

    I hate trying to find a new clan with the boat system it's way too slow and keeps showing me the same clans who thought this was a good idea.

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